HONESTLY, I SHOULD HAVE WON THIS BATTLE, I CANT HOLD MY WORDS ON THIS ONE

It was me that said that, I thought you both were using AI. Both beats sound like they are made by professional producers who do music for a living for 20 years. And both have ai mixing imo.

I could be wrong, and which case congratulations, your experts.

I just voted for which one I felt was better at the time. Listening again your one may have been better.

@bobchops well thanks for the compliment but there was no AI involved in the making of “2020” everything was played and recorded live. Yes been making music, mixing and recording for over 20 years

@uncledavebeats

lol well, tell me how it feels, that 20 years of hard work, just make it more easy to confuse you with AI?

When you made this in 2020, before AI it would have been super impressive, but now, I understand your frustration at losing the battle.

And now I listen to the beats again. I like your tune, and the live instruments, but then when I listen to the beat on the left, the mixing is too perfect. I like your mix a lot, but some of the elements sound a bit muddy, the guitar is a bit loud etc. Its fine its a great sounding mix, its just not he AI perfection level. probably only a few people in the world can mix like that.

@uncledavebeats wow... Honestly speaking, I thought th be drama would avoid me in this platform being that Im about positivity and peace but I have to admit... knowing how much I put into my music and how hard I am on myself & the quality of my work, this such a huge compliment to me LOL people feeling like my beats sound too perfect or like AI?? Man I'm actually honored fr. That's all I have to say on that. Thank you! 🙏🏿🙏🏿

@3rd.music I only said that because someone left a comment under our battle saying your beat was AI and straight from Suno, so I was like wtf, then they deleted the comment, I think it was that bob chops dude, but I would have at least thought the battle would be close, 91% to 8% is crazy but salute to you if that was the community's opinion, I'm glad you cleared it up, that it wasn't AI, that was my problem and that's what I really wanted from you, I don't want to battle a robot, I never thought it was AI until someone mentioned it because I wouldn't know what an AI West Coast beat would sound like, I'm an unc 😂 but keep up the good work mr. undefeated.

3rd got this battle IMO. I closed it and confirmed it. Our software didn’t detect ai and neither sounded like ai to me. Actually good beats and good battle.

His sounded better at first, until yours developed out more, then I could see that yours was clearly better. But as you can see, if you don't grab the listener in 6 seconds, you lose them. People do not have the patience to wait several minutes for your beat to develop. Get to the good stuff quickly when battling.

@FatFingers to each is own I guess but I feel their beat wasn't a west coast beat to begin with, it was more commercial Pop R&B for Chris Brown or something, to win you should have to stick to the genre if it's a genre battle

@vigilantestylez I get what you saying but both beats develops at about :20 seconds even though mines starts with drums, so that logic doesn't apply to this battle, I feel his beat wasn't even west coast to begin with

@uncledavebeats to be honest you're showing just how limited your understanding of where music and genres have evolved. You admitted yourself that you're unc so I can naturally assume you dont listen to much current music. For me though, Im really a student of this music thing. I know what west coast music sounded like in its origins, and I also know what it's currently matured into. Alot of the elements used in my track (gliding synth lead, that specific bass i used, drum groove) are elements reflective of up-to-date west coast hip hop tracks. Artists like Nipsey Hussle, Hitboy & Blxst would easily gravitate to my track alot more. But because of YOUR own limited view and understanding of the genre, you probably think west coast music is only and primarily g-funk (btw there's a genre battle for g-funk on the platform) lol it's not the 90s anymore! EVOLVE with the times, listen to new music, so that way you know what's going on and not butthurt and throwing out any and every reason to discredit my craft. You went from it not being west coast, to me having friends on the platform (I DON'T KNOW A SINGLE PERSON ON HERE BY THE WAY) to agreeing that my beat was AI. That's very embarrassing 😕 and unbecoming of you unc. People are too old to be crying on this platform like this. smh do better

@3rd.music sorry bro your beat is not west coast genre fam, from the 90's to this present day, I'm going to stand by that and I'm very updated with the times even though my producer name has been "Uncle Dave" since 2006, and it's all good, it's okay to shake up things a bit, that's what they made these discussions in these forums for right? lol come on now, the beat you went up against was made in 2013, yours sound like you made it yesterday so you know I'm not really feeling no type of way about it (especially when there's no money involved 😂) but it's still not west coast, and like I said before, I only said AI because someone suggested it was from Suno in the comments, I never thought it was AI until that person said something and I am against producers uploading AI beats on here, but I agree an artist would hop on your beat before they would mines but I believe this is a "beat battle" not a battle to make the best beat for an artist to sing/rap on but I could be wrong, and honestly I am not trippin' as much as you think I am, just talking sht and stirring sht up 😂 keep going tho, your beat is good and I would hear Chris Brown, Usher, Bryson Tiller singing on that, but not Snoop Dogg, Nipsey Hussle, Bino, Remble, etc. not even Blxst, it don't have that West Coast bounce, I am born and raised from South Central Los Angeles, California lived here my whole life, I know fam, Hit Boy is a versatile producer but even he would tell you your beat is not West Coast, it's Pop R&B commercial radio, listen to the song Kendrick and Jhene Aiko just dropped "So Good", it sounds similar to your vibe but their beat has a West Coast bounce, yours don't, I'm really trying to help you, listen to that song and you'll know what I'm talking about, your drums are too quantized, and your snare is not West Coast but other than that you're good bro and your mixes are clean, I'm not calling you names or insulting you in any way, just being honest 💯

Both beats were good I don't hear no AI elements at all I know how AI sounds. I picked 3rd becuase I thought it was the better beat in my opinion, but both beats are good to me. I had 3rd by a 2-point lead in my vote. So it's definitely a close battle in my book

@uncledavebeats Right, but no one is listening 20 seconds in. His beat sounded better at 6 seconds in, than yours did at that time. Just get to the good parts faster is all.

@vigilantestylez that's actually bad, no one should be able to vote if they can't actually listen to at least 30 seconds of the beat, just takes away from the art

@uncledavebeats This battle is going here! Stay Tuned! https://rocbattle.com/lounge/t/fb950688-bd2e-44f2-bdc0-e1928ec0dcce

@uncledavebeats I think it's good practice anyway, because if a regular listener won't wait either. But if you want to argue, you won't change anything, you'll continue to lose battles until you fix your intro game.

@vigilantestylez it's all good fam, I made that beat in 2013 lol and called it "2020" in 2013 😂
definitely wasn't made yesterday, honestly majority of my new beats just starts, which I learned from a grammy winning producer friend about 10 years ago, and no long intros but it depends on the feel and energy for me, I do it for the love of the game, win or lose but this situation had to be cleared up, and Rockwilder did that in the live today, so respect 💯

You can’t just assume a beat was made with AI because it is good… Being impressed by a beat doesn’t make it AI. 😏🫡

If you want to spot potentially AI-generated music, look for unnatural instrument transitions, weird audio artifacts, inconsistent melodies, or instruments that sound realistic but have strange musical behavior.

FR though, even those aren’t definitive proof.

Don’t confuse high-quality production with AI. Sometimes you’re just listening to a producer who knows what they’re doing. 🔥🤯👍

@INOTECH3D right, if you read the thread, I say several times I never thought it was AI until someone else mentioned it and said his beat was straight from Suno, because there's a lot of producers getting exposed on here already, but it's all good, keep going with the slapz 💯

I wasn't directing this towards anyone in particular, fam; it's just a thought I had while reading everything. 💯🫡✌️

@INOTECH3D fasho, just thought you read the original post and commented just from that but 3rd's mixes are very good to the point someone thought it was AI and had me thinking it's possible 😂