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12 Days Live: Battle System Integrity

FatFingers RocBattle Verified Honest Voter: consistent, fair votes across the arena Staff 1 week ago · 82 views
What's going on, RocBattle family!

We've been live for 12 days now, which gives us more than enough time to recognize where the battle system's integrity stands and the changes we have to make. We did the same thing on our previous battle systems, on RocBattle.com and on every version before this one: stress test the system and look at how we can improve it.

So let me be real for a second. With the kind of money we're putting on the line this season, and we're going to be paying out more than we've ever done, you can't possibly think we wouldn't see exactly what's being done. Buddy voting. Bringing in friends to max out one side. Tanking producers. We see it.

We don't have to explain how. Here are some things you should take note of.

1. How the battle system works now
The most voters wins. If there are no staff votes and the battle looks legit, it closes after it's been evaluated by staff.

Staff votes come in on very close battles or when there's money on the line, and those battles need a certain number of staff votes. That's the only time you might see uneven-looking results, because staff votes count for 30% of the battle. So if you're winning on the member side, one staff vote could change that. It might look like you got more votes, or a tie, and still lost. That's because staff votes are weighted.

2. No more draws
Draws are done. There has to be a winner. When you vote, one producer has to score higher than the other. This makes every vote critical: mix, arrangement, genre selection and creativity all matter.

3. Low scores are being highly scrutinized
If you give somebody a 1, 2 or 3, you'll see a warning before your vote goes in. Anything you score that low is going to be looked at. If someone's mix is clearly good and you gave them a 1, you're just showing how much voter honesty you have, and you could lose your rating and your account over it.

4. Verified, honest voters are coming
We want you to be able to rely on voters who have consistent, honest voting patterns, and all of that information is being tracked right now. We're putting more in place for the integrity of the system and for voter rankings, so you know who's voting and how far they can be trusted.

We're adding badges for the different levels of voter. Once you've cast a certain number of honest votes, you'll get a badge so the community can rely on your votes, and it'll show next to your name in the vote tallies. Think of it like the blue verified check, but a gold star for the people who vote consistently and honestly.

5. Battles already played
We went through the records of every finished battle. One result changes: RadikalRk vs MurdaBeats. MurdaBeats was picked by 8 of 11 voters, so the win now belongs to MurdaBeats. Both producers' records and ratings have already been corrected.

Going forward, staff will keep revisiting battles where we see buddy voting, and those votes won't count.

Fat Fingers
RocBattle Founder

9 replies

  1. #1
    MurdaBeats RocBattle Verified Producer 1 week ago
    πŸ’―πŸ’ͺ
  2. #2
    2HottyBeats RocBattle Verified Honest Voter: consistent, fair votes across the arena Producer 6 days ago
    Perfect scores should be to. 10's across to 5 across seems like a salty vote... Everyone should have a gold star if not those votes should be looked at. Just say'n...
  3. #3
    MurdaBeats RocBattle Verified Producer 6 days ago
    2HottyBeats: Perfect scores should be to. 10's across to 5 across seems like a salty vote... Everyone should have a gold star if not those votes should be looked at. Just say'n...
    I'm a rocbattle Alumni from the 2000s this was always a problem! U got ppl who can't accept criticism and the honest votes they get butt hurt!
  4. #4
    CMagik Beats RocBattle Verified Honest Voter: consistent, fair votes across the arena Producer 6 days ago
    Thank you for paying attention to the details in voting..When money is involved and even when its not,cats come up with all kinds of ways to cheat a system which is why I cancelled a few sites
  5. #5
    DJ D LIVE Honest Voter: consistent, fair votes across the arena Producer 5 days ago
    Thanks for bringing RocBattles back!!! I can appreciate the staff stepping in when there's money on the line!!! Keep it FAIR AND HONEST!!!
  6. #6
    MadTunez RocBattle Verified Producer 3 days ago
    I peeped that the voting system changed? I Just noticed and thought I messed up.
  7. #7
    MurdaBeats RocBattle Verified Producer 3 days ago · edited
    i think theres ppl on here honestly cheating staff gotta look into it!
  8. #8
    I don’t know if anyone has said this but for battles we should have the producer names be hidden and only revealed after the voting is closed.
  9. #9
    FatFingers RocBattle Verified Honest Voter: consistent, fair votes across the arena Staff 7 hours ago
    @ClarkWork, I appreciate the feedback and your suggestion for the battle system. Having built battle platforms since 2006, I’ve heard this request before, and we’ve actually implemented it in the past. But I’m going to be honest with you, from my experience, 95% of the time, the battle outcomes are pretty accurate.

    One of the benefits of RocBattle is that a staff member has to review and close each battle. That means the beats are actually listened to before the results are finalized. This is also why staff votes carry more weight, helping balance out situations where popularity or personal relationships may influence voting.

    If you don’t see a staff vote on a particular battle, it generally means the staff didn’t feel there was a need to weigh in or that the voting results were unfair. We’ve been doing this for a long time, and while no system is perfect, we’ve found this approach works pretty well.

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